I'm reviewing another black tea from Wawee Tea, a sample sent by them with an order of sheng and black tea, and a Moychay Dian Hong for comparison. Reviewing two teas helps place each, through comparison and contrast, and doubles the pace that I get through teas I'm reviewing. A large set of samples provided by Moychay helps with that first role (many thanks for that, even though it was a thanks for helping them with some editing).
The Thai tea is presented as "Assam." It's normal for local producers to call Assamica plant type based black tea Assam, whether the style is close to that origin range type or not. I think they kind of mean "Assamica" by that, but it doesn't matter what they mean, the teas are what they are.
There isn't any description of that from them, since there isn't a conventional sales site to refer to. They would have outlets on the local online shopping platforms, on Shopee and Lazada, but people in other countries couldn't use those, and people in Thailand would often already know of those if they like that style of tea. I order from them by direct staff contact, kind of the old fashioned way, when I see posts about something that look interesting. This is a related Facebook page; that's where I'd see such things, in others forwarding those. I could look this up on Shopee, but I'm not going to.
I did look up another citation of a different tea bag version on that Facebook page though, here.
Wild Assam Black Tea with Osmanthus Flowers
This is Wawee Tea's unique blend, currently served in major hotels in Bangkok.
πThe main ingredient is Wild Assam Black Tea, produced from centuries-old wild Assam tea trees on Doi Wawee.
Guaranteed by a silver medal award in a black tea competition. International Black Tea Competition 2019, China
πΌ Blended with Osmanthus (Guihua) flowers Authentic variety from Dali, China. Grown 100% chemical-free on our own farm.
π Packaged in tea bags made from corn fiber, microplastic-free.
Brewing Instructions: Steep the tea bag in hot water for no more than 2 minutes. For 250 ml.
20 Baht per piece
20 baht is about 60 cents, so that should be about 15 cents a gram. The tea is pretty good; that's fair. Again that's an osthmanthus flavored version, that looks to be made from the same black tea base, but I don't know that, and I don't know that the pricing is identical (although there's a good chance that it is).
Those brewing instructions would probably work, but it would be a real shame to throw away that tea bag after it had brewed for two minutes. It could surely make a pleasant second infusion.
Of course Moychay lists what their tea is, and it would be sold on an online platform, here:
Black Tea DIAN HONG CHA, Chinese tea from Yunnan Province (Red Tea), 70g, 7g (70 grams costs 7.34 Euro, or $8.35).
Dian Hong, or Yunnan Red Tea, originates from Fengqing County, Yunnan Province, a region renowned for its ideal tea-growing conditions. First developed in the late 19th century, Dian Hong transitioned from green tea production to meet the rising demand for black tea. Its unique flavor and consistent quality have earned it recognition both in China and internationally, even being gifted as a national tea to foreign dignitaries.
Cultivated at altitudes of 1800–2200 meters in Dasi Township, Fengqing County, this organic tea is hand-picked during the spring harvest (March 25 to May 5) using the traditional standard of one bud with three leaves. The tea is made from the Mengku Da Ye Zhong cultivar, and its production involves withering, rolling, fermentation, and multiple drying steps, ensuring a rich, full-bodied character.
Dian Hong brews into a deep red infusion with a complex aroma featuring honey, fruit, and floral notes. The taste is smooth and rich, with a satisfying balance of sweetness and a slight hint of bitterness. Its long-lasting aftertaste is sweet and lingering, offering a comforting experience over multiple infusions.
Let's start with that pricing; it works out to 12 cents a gram (or it would be $12 for 100 grams). That's pretty favorable, on the low side of the range for this type. Maybe that implies that the quality level is moderate, or maybe it's just a good deal; it just depends. Skipping ahead maybe a bit of both, related to writing this after doing the tasting part.
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Review:
Thai Wawee Assamica: it's pretty good. Warm tones match what one expect from black tea of this range, the earthiness, also covering range like redwood scent. A bit of berry also stands out, something like blackberry, but one could imagine it being interpreted as dark cherry. Feel is full and structured, maybe more structured than full, without dryness, or being too harsh, so that part works well.
This would be amazing as an English Breakfast Tea replacement; a much better version of that general type. Or maybe one category over, and just better than that, but comparable in some ways. For the leaf material being as chopped as it is astringency is still mild. I brewed it for around 20 seconds in a 100 ml gaiwan (for 4 grams), plenty to get it started, and it's not really overbrewed, although it looks it, quite dark and red.
This doesn't need milk or sugar, prepared like this, but you can put milk and sugar in black tea that doesn't need it, if you brew it strong, and it can still be nice. I was in a rush yesterday and did that, brewing their Wawee tea cake extra strong, and adding milk and sugar so I could essentially gulp it down, in a very fast breakfast.
Moychay Fengqing Dian Hong: this is brewed a little too strong. It's 7 grams in a 100 ml gaiwan, so 20 seconds was a bit much, even though it takes 5 to 10 for teas to generally just get completely soaked. It has more feel structure than the other tea; I didn't see that coming. Being brewed too strong changes that; we'll see next round. I thought that the other tea being chopped would make it brew fast, so the 4 and 7 gram proportions might balance, since this is whole leaf.
This includes a few flavors, a set that hasn't fully integrated yet. One part is tartness, not a personal favorite in black tea range, but it can come up. Another is fruit; that I do love. It includes some of that conventional black tea range, I guess oriented towards malt, which I probably should've used as a description for the other one. It seems to include a hint of black pepper; that's interesting. Then there is also some roasted yam, or something along that line. Maybe sweet potato instead? Or both, combining.
It sounds quite complex, and it is, but the flavors don't combine and integrate well just yet, and there's a thinness in one part of the flavor or character profile I can't pin down. It all might just relate to it getting started, not being there yet. In retrying the other I'm not really noticing malt, but it seems I did miss cacao. It will be interesting to see how it develops.
Wawee Assamica #2: these are both all but flash brewed, using a very short infusion time, but both look kind of dark red. This extracted faster, per the color and darkness, but we'll see.
It's actually pretty light. It's unusual drinking this style of tea light, more of a conventional black tea, but it works, beyond not matching a brewing norm. There's plenty of flavor, but the feel seems light. The feel that is present works, including some richness and fullness. Flavor includes cacao and whatever berry range that is. This is almost a Christmas blend flavor profile, without any adjustment from other flavors. Add some orange peel rind and cacao nibs to dial up the fruit and cocoa flavor and it's there. Of course it's already fine as it is.
It can be hard to notice what is missing. This doesn't taste like malt, and tea of this character would usually include much rougher astringency. It's quite good, for the style and presentation.
Moychay Dian Hong: this is slightly stronger, in a more conventional range, but then it is brewing 7 grams instead of 4. I didn't adjust timing, beyond pouring the second gaiwan out first, when it had been filled second. Tartness is dropping out already, it seems. Even though it's really subtle that limited pepper note is cool, adding a nice effect. Roasted yam or sweet potato is a main flavor now. It's hard to settle on it being just one of those, even though they are different. It's not as distinct a flavor as it could be.
Related to comparison to Dian Hong I'm familiar with this is fine, but something is missing. It doesn't include a depth of feel, and a heavy mineral base input, to the extent those often do. Often some versions will lack flavor intensity while they express that depth, which can seem a little strange, although that can be pleasant if you are accustomed to it.
I experience that as a gap in what I expect. You get a good hit of up front flavor, and it trails after some as aftertaste, but the feel just isn't there, and some flavor depth is missing. I'm not saying that the other version includes all of that, but it covers a normal range better, so to a very limited extent it is. But it's not a tea that could pass for a good version of Dian Hong either. I'll push both a little more going back to a 15 to 20 second infusion, and see where they stand further along the cycle.
Thai Wawee Assamica #3: this is holding up pretty well, for tea that I freed up from a tea bag. The character isn't different enough to go back through it again; it's just a stronger version of what I experienced the last round. The balance works, how it all comes together.
Moychay Dian Hong: this is the best this has been. Feel thickens, and mineral base picks up; that's more like it. The black pepper note is stronger. Or is that white pepper? It might be. A touch of berry like range adds to the roasted yam / sweet potato, giving it more flavor complexity, which works well with the richer feel.
This still isn't a personal favorite style of Dian Hong example, for me, but it's much closer. A bit of cacao and a little more sweetness would really tie the rest together better. But it integrates the best it has, and it's fine like this. Very limited tartness isn't as problematic (I just don't like tartness), but it's more shift in the wrong direction.
To be clear Dian Hong is my favorite black tea type. It's very familiar. Versions from South East Asia can be just as good, and can match typical Yunnan style very well, or they can also vary, a lot. There are outliers in Yunnan versions and styles too. This is sort of conventional, sort of not, in two different senses. It lacks typical depth, mineral range isn't as pronounced as it usually would be, and the tartness isn't typical at all. But the other flavor range is right, and the lack of harsh astringency, the tea being full but not rough or dry. They generally don't taste malty, and this doesn't.
At this stage I like the other tea a little better. The tartness alone might swing that balance, or it all just integrates a little better. It's not nearly as good as the black tea cake I bought from them; for someone with my preferences it would be as well to skip this tea and just buy that. But then this is a different thing, and for a tea to go, the tea bag form it came in, it would work well, much better than anything Twinings or similar producers make.
Both teas, infusion #4: the Wawee tea thins a little, but then it has been a challenge brewing 4 grams of broken leaf well. It's still good. The Dian Hong is still the best it has been, picking up a little more depth and complexity.
It's an overall good sign that it improves across rounds; better quality tea will do that, while lower quality versions express their best range early on, and then die. Or maybe that also relates to material type; low elevation grown plantation tea should be more intense at first, then fade, and higher elevation or more natural grown tea tends to have more durability. Sometimes older plant material teas can lack exceptional flavor intensity but express a lot of depth.
In the round after these, #5, the Thai Wawee tea was really dropping off, and the Dian Hong wasn't, kind of as one might expect, that whole-leaf tea would brew out slower. But again it's also a good sign for the Dian Hong quality level.
Conclusions:
Both were pretty good. Both had their own limitations. For comparing to standard tea-bag tea, chopped material range versions, the Wawee tea was exceptional, but it's an odd starting point competing in that range. It was better than that; it was fine as a conventional specialty tea. But I suppose it could have been even better as a more whole leaf version.
The Moychay version I judged more negatively for coming into the tasting with a lot of expectations about Dian Hong style and character range. It was good, but some early lack of some range (mineral taste, feel depth), and inclusion of tartness, seemed a lot more negative for me expecting it to be a certain way, to be different. It's not necessarily that it compared negatively to the other version, but the other Wawee tea was better in a couple of ways. And the Moychay tea was superior in other ways; it held up better to an infusion cycle, and came to express more complexity and depth than the other, in "later" rounds (this was a pretty short infusion sampling cycle).
If I had to pick one that I liked more it would be the Thai tea, but they were both fairly equivalent, and that was about preference for specific flavor range, not quality. Maybe the Moychay Dian Hong was a little higher in quality level, in spite of it also being limited in some ways.
I've been trying such exceptional teas lately that any that seem good but not great might come across as more limited to me now. These were both good. For anyone that actually likes a touch of tartness in black teas the Dian Hong review might seem wrong; too negative. And without specific expectations about feel and mineral base flavor going in it could seem all the more positive.
Dian Hong drinkers would know what I'm talking about, and anyone new to tea reading this might think it's all nonsense. Trueness to type expectations aren't really a made up thing, but they do extend how people experience tea into an abstract range, moving beyond "how good; how pleasant?," into "does this match what I expect?"
The Moychay tea is a really good value, for as pleasant as this is. It may not work well for spending an hour just focusing on it, for me, for it missing my main personal preference range by a couple of aspects, but this would still be a great breakfast tea. For someone with different black tea preference it may seem much better than that.





















